To most of us, they're easily explained as planes, plastic bags,
birds or balloons.
To a select few, those lights, shadows and unidentified objects
they see flying or lingering in the desert sky are proof that
earthlings are not alone.
Rich Giordano filmed such an event on Val Vista Drive in Mesa in
late April, and claims it was a fleet of ships performing
exercises in the northern sky.
But before you write Giordano off as another alien-obsessed
crackpot, there's one thing you should know: Giordano wants
someone to prove him wrong.
The Chandler resident regularly offers $100 to anyone who can
disprove some of the videos on his site, that is, those he
hasn't already debunked himself.
The shift in Giordano's status from disciple to debunker is
creating something of a rift in the area's rich UFO-sighting
community.
Though the group is easily given to conspiracy theories, Jeff
Woolwine, one of Giordano's favorite targets, said the root of
Giordano's debunking campaign is nothing more than professional
jealousy.
"If I'm faking this stuff, if it's balloons, then why is
everyone seeing the same (stuff) in different parts of the
country?" said Woolwine, who believes the drawings on South
Mountain's rocks have the power to draw out spirits. "I don't
care what Giordano says. He's just upset that I filmed them
closer."
Giordano, who hosts a UFO-themed radio show on his Web site,
www.cnufos.com, has a ready explanation for this, as he does
with most of the unexplained and unidentified objects that are
sent to him from awestruck residents around the world.
"I've learned that there aren't as many UFOs as people think.
I've debunked most of my own ideas," said Giordano, a
39-year-old native New Yorker who's lived in the Valley since
1979. "I want to believe, but I feel like, with all the stuff I
have on video, it's still not good enough for me. Most people
just don't know any better, or they're just making stuff up."
Giordano said that was a tough lesson for him to learn when he
first entered the area's active sky-watching community in 2004.
But his fascination with unidentified objects circling in the
night sky goes back much further.
Giordano was taking out the trash with his dad in the 1970s at
their home in New York when his father saw an odd-looking red
light in the sky and alerted his neighbors. No more than 5 years
old at the time, Giordano said he was hooked on the belief that
something or someone else is out there, but the thought didn't
creep back into his mind until he was walking his wife's dog in
April 2004 and saw what he thought was a moving star.
"I thought it was a satellite and then I went back out at 3:30
in the morning and saw the exact same thing," Giordano said.
Within months his Web site was up, but during the next 18
months, Giordano's tone on the site would change from that of an
ardent believer to an increasingly skeptical detractor.
Giordano said there are tricks that help explain many of the
most popular UFO videos that have proliferated on sites such as
YouTube and LiveVideo.com, the most common of which are
launching balloons and recording them as they disappear, giving
the appearance of a far-off object ascending to the heavens. UFO
hunters can also adjust the lighting, zoom and camera angle to
make a large object, such as a plane, look like it's a tiny,
shiny speck zooming around the sky, he said.
"The thing about the UFO community is, it's such a hard thing to
believe that when someone comes along they think I'm trying to
ruin it for them. I'm not. I'm trying to keep 'ufology' in
tact," Giordano said. "But I think 95 percent of this stuff is
fake, 4 percent is unexplained and 1 percent is real, and that
even goes for my own stuff."
Giordano has plenty of motivation to set himself apart from the
rabble of UFO sleuths in the state: the more he debunks their
stories, Giordano sets himself up as a voice that even the most
strident skeptics can trust. That's a handy stance when it comes
to driving traffic to his Web site and enhancing efforts to
increase exposure for his Web-cast radio show in the hopes of
getting an over-the-air gig someday.
Giordano admits the appeal of positioning himself as the voice
of reason amidst a sea of screwballs, but that doesn't remove
the stigma that accompanies his role.
"It's hard for me at work, too. I kept this a secret at my new
job. I don't bring it up, ever. I did at the beginning, when I
first started the site. I was working as loan officer at the
time and when I started getting into this, people there started
to treat me differently. They treated my like a freak," said
Giordano, who now works as a manager at a Scottsdale
glass-replacement company. "My job is normal, my wife is normal,
everything in my life is normal, except for this."
Lenny - People believe in God too.
(Ben (LEDZEPLIN), May 25, 2007 10:44AM)
For me to believe 100% I would have to see one in person.
Which I have not. I'm like 70% - 30%.
But the information is out there that suggests our Government
has gone to extremes to hide information from us.
Isn't the Universe itself enough (scientific) proof to believe
that we are far from the most intelligent life-form in it?
(Ben (LEDZEPLIN), May 25, 2007 10:42AM)
Shelly -
I never said I don't believe there is life on other planets. I
do. However, any life on another planet would be light years
away. Tell me the last time NASA sent someone to another star?
I must have been asleep that day. Yes, UFO means Unidentified
Flying Object. Or at least it used to. Nowadays, ask anyone if
they 'believe' in UFO's and they are talking about spaceships
from other worlds, not things seen in the sky that are as yet
unidentified. And finally, you have hit the nail on the head:
People BELIEVE in UFO's (alien spaceships). They have to
believe because there is no factual eveidence to support their
existence. People BELIEVE in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
When was the last time anyone asked you if you believe in
gravity or television or oatmeal cookies? You don't have to
have a discussion on the belief in these subjects because the
facts and evidence are there for all to see. Not so with your
'Unidentifed" Flying Objects.(Lenny6024, May
25, 2007 10:41AM)
ha ha, glad I wasn't the only one who caught those.(michelle402,
May 25, 2007 10:40AM)
hocher7642, you shouldn't pick quotes that are more
intelligent and lucent than you are.
"We can't be the planet with life."cindy5739
Oh, I'm pretty sure we are the planet with life.
"Lenny - Open your mind a little & check out what the French
Government has reviled."Ben (LEDZEPLIN)
The French Gov't reviles everything that isn't French.(Larry7970,
May 25, 2007 10:38AM)
So, I checked out the web site, and this is just an example of
what I read:
CHEMTRAILS AND THEIR MAKERS - POSTED 01-24-06 - (3.97mbs
47sec) - ORIGINALLY TAPED 01-06
Chemtrails Still going strong and no rain for 92 days and none
in sight. Although there were some predictions for rain the
chemtrails came strong and wiped that chance out every time.
At least that's what I think. Here are a few trails and the
planes laying them out.
No rain in sight after 92 days? Hello? This is Phoenix,
Arizona .. where it only rains on average about 5 days/year.
Someone's got a touch of heat stroke and needs to get out of
the sun. How long have you been in Arizona? Go back to New
York!
Sorry, but anyone who thinks aircraft contrails are preventing
precipitation knows nothing about meteorology. If anything,
they have been proven to CAUSE rain.
Looking at just a few of the videos posted as "real UFOs", I
know that with a little research (star charts, satellite and
space junk charts, and unfortunately, classified project
flight schedules) I could debunk all the videos I happened to
scan on that web site.
Having been in the USAF before the stealth went public, I saw
plenty that could be considered a "UFO", but wasn't.
If this much energy were spent on looking for a cure for
cancer and AIDS, they would be as curable as the common
athlete’s foot.
UFOs exist, but only until they’re identified.
(Robert4617, May 25, 2007 10:33AM)
I believe they exist. Most people would not want to admit they
have seen them, etc. I think our government knows more than it
is telling us, or ever will.(Pat3903, May 25,
2007 10:32AM)
What have they revealed? That they have a radar anomoly?
Somebody saw something they don't know what it is? What? Have
they 'revealed' it to scientific peer review? Or is all the
evidence they have anecdotal stories and specious photographs?
If their revelations are so factual, why would I have to go
rummaging around Google to find it? Shouldn't I be able to
read about it in National Geographic or Scientific American? (Lenny6024,
May 25, 2007 10:32AM)
Lenny, we travel in space on a regular basis. Remember NASA?
So, if interstellar space travel is possible for us, why would
it not be possible for another culture (yes, aliens). We have
traveled to many other planets, yes, they have all been void
of life. But, do you think for a minute that if we found a
planet that had life we wouldn't be all over it? So, why is it
so hard to believe that there could be another life form (or
people just like us) living somewhere other than earth. Why
would the Lord create such a vast universe just to use such a
small section of it? Im not saying there are aliens, but I
certainly wont say there isn't!!! Now, one more rather
important comment: Why attack those who believe in UFO's?
Remember what it stands for "Unidentified Flying Object." That
is exactly what these objects people see are. Like the phoenix
lights, which I have seen more than once, explain it to me
(proof positive) and it will no longer be a UFO. Quit spending
so much good time of your life demeaning others for what they
believe in and just move on with your life. No one is forcing
the subject or the belief of the subject on you. (Shelly1265,
May 25, 2007 10:27AM)
Lenny - Open your mind a little & check out what the French
Government has reviled.
There are other Governments then the United States Government
ya know.
(Ben (LEDZEPLIN), May 25, 2007 10:09AM)
c'mon Lenny, tell us how ya really feel.(michelle402,
May 25, 2007 10:00AM)
Somebody explain to me how Earth not being the only planet
with intelligent life (so-called) AUTOMATICALLY means
extra-terrestrial spacecraft are flying around in our
atmosphere? Here's another question for you: How is it that a
Government that can't get along with itself (Democrats and
Republicans) and couldn't even keep one BJ a secret could sit
on the biggest scientific discovery ever for over sixty years?
And why, Oh True Believers, have your little alien buddies
never, not once, just dropped in on the U.N. to say hello?
Because it is much more fun to believe that your evil
government is keeping vast, dark secrets from you, and that
all that the 'intelligent' beings from other worlds want to do
is sneak around at night and kidnap sleeping earthlings and
perform weird sexual experiments on them. That's why. And that
is why, no matter what you are told or shown or whatever
evidence is presented to the contrary, you will always believe
in UFO's. Get a grip on yourselves. If you had even the
slightest idea of the physics involved with interstellar space
travel, you would not for one minute think that aliens are
flying around in our skies. Of course, if you had that much on
the ball, this article would never have been written.(Lenny6024,
May 25, 2007 09:54AM)
Kathie, is your family close to area 51?(cindy5739,
May 25, 2007 09:50AM)
This is so weird. A long time ago (about 40 years ago) my
grandmother, a Native American did not speak a word of
English. She also never watched TV or was unaware of it.
Television only recently started showing up on the reservation
recently because of Direct TV. Also, at that time the
reservation did not have running water or electricity. She
still road her horse to the trading post and hauled water in a
wagon from a nearby well. The only modern technology in her
Hogan was her radio. My grandmother stated that she saw a
bright object sit down about 200 yards from her Hogan. A
couple of little people, unlike humans (people with five
fingers) came out and was pulling various plants out of the
ground. She stood there and just watched them. She thought she
was dreaming, the next day she said they were working on her
in this bright room, looking over her entire body. She
believes they took her into this object and was operating on
her. Now this is a woman that never knew anything about modern
technology. That was when I started believing in UFO’s.
Then again, one day I visited my aunt and uncle. We were
sitting outside their Hogan, the moon was full and the fire
was burning to keep us warm. My aunt and uncle told me that
the night before, they had seen a large black plane and
explained how it would take off and land. They also drew the
plane shape in the ground, giving me details of the object.
Years later, I found that what they saw was the Stealth. They
seen the plane before anyone else did. Apparently, the US only
flies their new projects on the vast reservation, because the
Native Americans tend to keep to themselves.
So is it really UFO's or is it the Government?
(Kathie5293, May 25, 2007 09:18AM)
It’s time out government comes clean with their knowledge of
UFO’s.
* The Canadian Defense Minister said last year that he himself
has seen a UFO in person.
* France declassified all of their UFO information this year.
They have documented sonar tracking of a craft traveling at
speeds that are way beyond anything we are capable of.
* If that’s not proof enough just do a little research on the
incident Roswell New Mexico. The local newspaper printed on
the front page of their newspaper “We have recovered a crashed
UFO and Alien Bodies” – Then 2 days later it’s a weather
balloon??? The farmer who first discovered the crash site, on
his death bed told his entire family what he found that day,
and how he kept quiet about it because Government Officials
threatened him and his family if he were to tell anyone.
* When the script for “Independence Day” (the movie) went to
the FCC for approval. The Government made them take out every
single reference to Area 51 in the movie. Then later allowed
it, (in my opinion) to make a mockery of the idea that the
Government is actually hiding advanced technology there.
What makes you think that our Government is telling you the
truth? It's up to you to question authority and think for
yourself.
(Ben (LEDZEPLIN), May 25, 2007 09:09AM)